Episode 124: Authz Signal Jam
July 15, 2025 · 1 min read
In this new 60 minute format, Mike and Gabriel will improvise a conversation prompted by some latest industry news. We are also encouraging audience participation in the episode! Audience questions will trump the agenda!
Your Questions!!! Post any questions for the identerati on the chat! Today we're taking all questions!
Axiomatics acquired by Leonardo -- 10 reasons this acquisition makes sense
MongoDB Adoption of Cedar Watch 30 min video of Jim Scharf. -- 10 reasons this makes sense
97% Price Drop in AVP -- 10 things this price drop may signal to the market
Authlete Cedar JWT Idea -- 10 implications for embedding Cedar policies in JWTs
Extra Credit: Permit.io McGateway! time allowing...
#Speakers
- Host: Mike Schwartz, Founder/CEO Gluu
- Guest: Gabriel Manor - Liechtman, Developer Community Mgr at Permit.io
#Takeaways
- The Axiomatics acquisition is historic because they were among the first pure play authz startups. Leonoardo announced Axiomatics adds a key component in their Zero Trust offering in their Global Cybersecurity Centre. This deal was the third cybersecurity acquisition in a few months for Leonardo.
- MongoDB adoption of Cedar "for database administration not data"--no document level security. In the demo, MongoDB shows raw input for Cedar Policies. Authoring Cedar schema and policies is still a challenge--even with Cedar's ergonomic syntax. But... Gabriel prefers Cedar syntax to OPA Prolog syntax!
- Amazon 97% price drop + CNCF announcement = Amazon signaling it really wants adoption of Cedar, asserts Mike. Another explanation: perhaps Cedar is so fast, Amazon just totally screwed up their margin calculation? Or another theory: security policy adoption by enterprise customers will make their cloud infrastructure more sticky? All of the above?
- Cedar in JWTs? Didn't have time to discuss it. But hopefully we'll get Taka Kawasaki on to present it at some later date.
